tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post114467063761636192..comments2023-11-05T04:54:27.364-05:00Comments on The GYS Network: The Papelbon ExperimentEarlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16528300608952663063noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144690045332943992006-04-10T13:27:00.000-04:002006-04-10T13:27:00.000-04:00Also, I am not saying move Papelbon if Foulke isn'...Also, I am not saying move Papelbon if Foulke isn't ready...But he sure looks ready.<BR/><BR/>I think I might be the only one who think that Game 1 of the year was an abberation...<BR/><BR/>His spring training and his other two appearances hold more water for me than Game 1 against Texas...GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144689890379692732006-04-10T13:24:00.000-04:002006-04-10T13:24:00.000-04:00In my defense...I didn't want to do that...I think...In my defense...I didn't want to do that...I think that I even said that more than likely wouldn't happen and it was a "what if" scenario...<BR/><BR/>This I am serious about...<BR/><BR/>I like Timlin, Tavarez, Foulke, Delcarmen...<BR/><BR/>I also agree that Wells is a gamer...but could do a DL stint or two.<BR/><BR/>I also know that Clement has a tendency to break down after the first half (and last year MAY have been caused by the line drive).<BR/><BR/>Having the ability to not be depending on Papelbon to close, and the flexibility to move him to the starting rotation is very important to this team...<BR/><BR/>Unless, of course, the fifth starter becomes Clemens...GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144687695201442402006-04-10T12:48:00.000-04:002006-04-10T12:48:00.000-04:00Well, the feed I had yesterday showed Papelbon at ...Well, the feed I had yesterday showed Papelbon at 96, so maybe the Sox v Balt telecasts had different guns going.<BR/><BR/>This all hinges on Foulke getting back to Foulke. Everything else has a serious downstream affect. If you move Papelbon to the rotation without a dominant Foulke, you essentially have Tavarez and Timlin, which as we saw last year, is not good. <BR/><BR/>Hell, even with Foulke back, it would be my preference to keep Papelbon in the pen - that would be 4 great arms and provide for amazing depth. <BR/><BR/>I just think if you start messing with the pen, it could affect everything else.<BR/><BR/>AND this is all predicated on wells (or someone) getting hurt. Wells did win 15 games for us and always has been a gamer. Maybe age will catch up with him, but maybe not.<BR/><BR/>I guess I should take all of this with a grain of salt. Hell, a week ago when Foulke still sucked and Bard could not catch Wake, you wanted to move Wake to the pen, Pap to the rotation and have Timlin close.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619431779431103280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144684368272852452006-04-10T11:52:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:52:00.000-04:00Also, Papelbon topped out at 94 yesterday and more...Also, Papelbon topped out at 94 yesterday and more consistently hit 91 and 92 with poor location.<BR/><BR/>Gibbons popped up a splitter that didn't dive (right over the middle of the plate). If that was Tejada (who was on board because he got hit...and Mora got hit, too, but the ump didn't see it) that ball is still in the air somewhere...GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144684276194078712006-04-10T11:51:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:51:00.000-04:00Right, but Tavarez and Timlin to Foulke with a sta...Right, but Tavarez and Timlin to Foulke with a starting rotation of <BR/><BR/>Schilling<BR/>Wake<BR/>Beckett<BR/>Clement<BR/>Papelbon<BR/><BR/>That is fairly devastating...Then throw in Delcarmen or Hansen or Lester as your young guy who can come in and unload for one-inning at a time is good, too.<BR/><BR/>Especially if we are talking about 15-days on DL or more...And maybe Wells goes out for 15, and Beckett gets a blister...Then you have 2 spot starters. I think having Papelbon ready to start is more valuable in the long run...You have to think that there are 6-9 starts for someone other than a regular starter with this rotation. I'd rather have Papelbon ready to do that instead of having DiNardo and others.<BR/><BR/>Just a preference...Maybe this is like '04, though, when our starters were awesome...except for that .500 span...GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144683964335014612006-04-10T11:46:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:46:00.000-04:00Spellling or no spelling, you made sense. Let Fran...Spellling or no spelling, you made sense. Let Francona make sure Foulkie can be as good as he was yesterday from day to day. And don't kid yourself, he was the '04 Foulke yesterday. But there's no hurry. Let's stand pat with Paps at the back end for a few more appearances. It is ONLY April 10th, last time I checked. And as the Stones wrote and sang, "Time Is On Our Side." Believe it baby!Peter Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00625257724065648318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144682133949709212006-04-10T11:15:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:15:00.000-04:00And of course I can't spell in the link....And of course I can't spell in the link....Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619431779431103280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144682047663686712006-04-10T11:14:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:14:00.000-04:00I think there are two questions in play:Who is the...I think there are two questions in play:<BR/><BR/>Who is the closer for now? Well, <A HREF="http://gysnetwork.blogspot.com/2006/04/question.html#114460967100764549" REL="nofollow">As originally preidcated!</A> we have a closer controversy.<BR/><BR/>I still would like to see some consistency with both Foulke and the roll. flip flopping back and forth does nobody any good, not so much because the players can't handle it but because the way it gets talked and talked and talked about it.<BR/><BR/>So If foulke consistently shows he can locate the ball and handle pressure, I'm all for him being the closer. <BR/><BR/>I can't really get that worked up about Papelbon not being as dominant yesterday he still was at 96-97.<BR/><BR/>And having Timlin, Papelbon and Tavarez as set up men will be huge.<BR/><BR/>Which leads me to, if (when) one of the starters goes down, I would like to see the spot start go to one of the lesser guys (assuming it is just a few starts or less). Bring up Lester, Alvarez, Dinardo or someone and take the chance with them for one game, rather than moving Papelbon to the rotation and weakening your whole bullpen. Unless they start seeing consistency from Seanez/Riske. I just figure why weaken two positions when you can limit it to one.<BR/><BR/>But they can cross that bridge when they get to it.<BR/><BR/>For now, lets hope Foulke continues to improve.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619431779431103280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144681537081079332006-04-10T11:05:00.000-04:002006-04-10T11:05:00.000-04:00Foulke's velocity was up....finally. What was it ...Foulke's velocity was up....finally. What was it last year, 84-88. It's nice to see him looking sharp. Maybe it's the competition. Regardless, it's a bold move by the Red Sox and, one that is paying off (so far).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1144680206566169832006-04-10T10:43:00.000-04:002006-04-10T10:43:00.000-04:00I pretty much agree with you. But I think right n...I pretty much agree with you. But I think right now the experiment Tito, Theo, etc are doing is not with Papelbon - it's with Foulke. Making him pitch in lower stress situations, to get his confidence up. It has to be higher now than it's been in over a year. He'll get a hero's welcome when he first shows up at Fenway, and hopefully he can put 2005 behind him. Once he's back, put him back at closer.<BR/><BR/>Just a guess. Man it'd be cool if 2004 Foulke were back.Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16528300608952663063noreply@blogger.com