tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post113699079300524094..comments2023-11-05T04:54:27.364-05:00Comments on The GYS Network: Payton's PlaceEarlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16528300608952663063noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137100540377573692006-01-12T16:15:00.000-05:002006-01-12T16:15:00.000-05:00This is all, of course, if we get Payton.I just th...This is all, of course, if we get Payton.<BR/><BR/>I just think he slots nicely in to the leadoff spot. He's not the greatest, but Loretta may profit more from hitting in front of Ortiz. I haven't been able to find much about Loretta's baserunning except that "he is a true student of the game"...He was my fantasy league 2b two years ago and he crushed...I am psyched he is here...<BR/><BR/>Also, Youk hasn't had that much big league experience at this point in terms of at-bats. Hiding him somewhere in the order could really help him gain confidence. You are exposed as a leadoff hitter, I think.GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137096681343427642006-01-12T15:11:00.000-05:002006-01-12T15:11:00.000-05:00Grieve, I was just responding to Payton's placemen...Grieve, I was just responding to Payton's placement there in the original post.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, we don't have the prototypical guy, but we're also not going to get him from anyone, it would seem (even Jeremy Reed at this point in his career would be better served by being in the 9th spot). Youk or Loretta both work for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137094486773373572006-01-12T14:34:00.000-05:002006-01-12T14:34:00.000-05:00Andrew, no one said it HAD to be Payton leading of...Andrew, no one said it HAD to be Payton leading off...Youk gets on a lot, and works the count, but he isn't exactly a speedster on the base paths, either. A station to station leadoff guy isn't the best option, either.<BR/><BR/>Truth is they don't have a prototype leadoff guy. If they got Lugo they wouldn't have that guy either...<BR/><BR/>They could trade for someone, but like I said, I'd rather them hold on to these young guys and go with Cora and Payton (if it takes only Wells to make it happen).GrieveRuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852411034145338626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137076525254865372006-01-12T09:35:00.000-05:002006-01-12T09:35:00.000-05:00Also, Dinos, Marte is exactly that good. He's bee...Also, Dinos, Marte is exactly that good. He's been towards the top of every prospect list in baseball for a couple years, and is as close to a sure thing as a prospect can be - patience, power, glove.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137076454361801892006-01-12T09:34:00.000-05:002006-01-12T09:34:00.000-05:00Is Payton really a leadoff option, by the way? It...Is Payton really a leadoff option, by the way? It doesn't always have to be the CF, as it turns out. My current choices, in order of preference, are Youk and Loretta, with whoever doesn't lead off batting in the 2 hole. They're both RHH, which is an issue, but not as much of one as having two LHH in a row.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137075343929423522006-01-12T09:15:00.000-05:002006-01-12T09:15:00.000-05:00Just does to show how much I know. I didn't reali...Just does to show how much I know. I didn't realize Marte was that good!!!I-believe-in-Dinosaurshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06898846088677890590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137002607822870222006-01-11T13:03:00.000-05:002006-01-11T13:03:00.000-05:00Yes, I meant to basically say what Andrew did even...Yes, I meant to basically say what Andrew did even though it came out as - I am a bit torn on Lugo for Marte.<BR/><BR/>While the D-Rays are terrible to deal with from what I read, I think the Sox should continue to talk with the D-Rays and let them keep asking for Marte, but as things get closer to spring training, maybe they will settle for a lesser prospect - maybe (MAYBE) someone like Shoppach. However, I'm not sure the D-Rays are smart enough (they haven't been in the past) to actually take a perceived $.50 on the dollar instead of getting nothing. Its all the Mets fault for trading them Kazmir.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619431779431103280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137001575894069022006-01-11T12:46:00.000-05:002006-01-11T12:46:00.000-05:00Marte for Lugo would be an absolutely horrific tra...Marte for Lugo would be an absolutely horrific trade. Lugo and Renteria are essentially as valuable as one another, and Marte - a cost controlled top prospect who could be only slightly below David Wright in terms of production, is about three times as valuable as either of them. Not to mention that, given our inclusion of $11 mil to the Braves with Rent, we'd be paying Lugo a large amount of money overall, when we have an option in cora that's really not that far below him in terms of production, and probably higher in terms of defense. I can't for a moment believe that the FO is even slightly considering that move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1137000905139233022006-01-11T12:35:00.000-05:002006-01-11T12:35:00.000-05:00I am a bit torn on Lugo for Marte. Lugo is good, ...I am a bit torn on Lugo for Marte. Lugo is good, but I worry about his ability to handle Boston. Plus he is a FA after 2006. So we may have traded Renteria and tons of cash for one year of Lugo?<BR/><BR/>I tend to agree that now that the Sox will keep Manny, Cora can be hidden a lot easier.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07619431779431103280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10243036.post-1136997345961494902006-01-11T11:35:00.000-05:002006-01-11T11:35:00.000-05:00I am les concerned about Payton's attitude than I ...I am les concerned about Payton's attitude than I am his health. He's not that old, but look what playing CF in Fenway did to Damon. <BR/><BR/>As for the Marte for Lugo idea, I am not sure I agree Grieves, Lugo is pretty frickin' sweet and he's only been in the league a couple of years.I-believe-in-Dinosaurshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06898846088677890590noreply@blogger.com